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I found this on the internet and listened to it. Thought I'd see what you think. You can play the audio and hear it. Some of the comments are saying he's a nut job who shouldn't be allowed to see his child. Other comments think that Kim Basinger is wrong because she's turned the child against him. So what are your thoughts????
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He's got serious anger issues, it was one of the top reasons why Kim Bassinger divorced him. She was probably afraid of him and definitely was verbally abused by him alot. I feel so bad for that little girl. I hope he gets some counseling or something.
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Well, I can definately understand where he is coming from if everything is "true". If the mother is truly turning her against him I understand his frustration.
However, it doens't give him the right to use that language or make those threats.
Here is my problem. If parents are married and get upset with their child and go on a rampage screaming and yelling..they can calm themselves down, apologize to the child hold them, hug them, tell them how much they love them...and no one else EVER hears about it. And I think most of us have yelled at our children and then realized how wrong it was afterwards. Maybe not like he did, but similar.
BUT when parents are divorced or going through a divorce....everything is under a microscope and everything gets analyzed 10 times over. Not saying that it makes it right, but hopefully you understand where I am coming from.
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They played this on the Today Show this morning. I didn't hear the beginning, but some of the things he said (calling her a thoughtless little pig & cursing repeatedly ) no should be saying to ANYONE, let alone your own child, no matter how bad the divorce has been (and the commentator on Today called their divorce "War of the Roses on steroids").
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Well, IMO, no matter if Kim Basinger has or is trying to turn Ireland against Alec - i don't feel he needs leave that kind of message to his daughter. Again, another child having to be in the middle of 2 adults that don't get along. I guess I just feel sorry for kids that have to deal with divorced parents that don't get along. My DH is one of them. It's not fun and it's not fair to the kids.
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There is absolutely no excuse for talking to a child like that, EVER! He always seemed like a totally nut but I didn't know he was an verbally abusive nut.
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Originally Posted by beautifulbabies
There is absolutely no excuse for talking to a child like that, EVER! He always seemed like a totally nut but I didn't know he was an verbally abusive nut.
Exactly!
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I just read another article where Alec Baldwin apologized and said he was just so frustrated. I guess HE SAYS Kim Basinger is trying to turn his dd against him, so they had court ordered times that he was allowed to talk to her, but when he calls he can never get ahold of her. I guess now his lawyers are pursuing how this got "leaked" (they obviously think Kim or her lawyers) since they're supposed to both not talk about it. It's just so sad. No matter what is happening he should not have talked to his dd that way. Frankly I'm not sure why he's blaming her instead of Kim. But at the same time, if my ex-spouse was constantly trying to turn my children against me, I'd be frustrated beyond belief too. It's just sad they can't be mature enough to do what's best for the child instead of both of them plotting how they can get at the other. So sad.....
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I think both are to blame. I have to say- yes he should not talk like that- EVER! Though the parents are adults and need to act like adults. This divorce and custudy battle has been going on for years (i think 7 yrs). No parent in my mine should put a child in the middle of this- do the right thing by your child and move on.
I am not defending him with my next statement- though I heard on the radio this am- that he had specific times he was suppose to call and talk with his daughter and she had a cell phone for this reason and she was not answering his calls- some say- it was Kim who was telling her to not answer???
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OK, prepare to blast me for this....
No, I do not think he should have spoken to his daughter in such a manner. Swearing and name-calling is not appropriate...BUT...I do understand that he has been very frustrated by the inconsiderate things that his daughter and ex-wife have done. I do not believe that this little girl will be "Permanently Scarred" (as was said on CNN) by the tirade of her father. Face it, if that were permanently scarring, I would be dead by now with some of the things my parents said to me.
Parents raise their voices. Parents get frustrated. Parents get angry. It Happens!!! You apologize for it and then go on with your life. You do not need to go to therapy for yelling at your kid.
Also, this voice mail was taken into Family Court in California, which is a SEALED COURTROOM. The mother or daughter had to have given this tape to the media--why would they do such a thing? Why do they not just let the courts handle it? This tape should have never been released to the media. Whoever let it go should be prosecuted for allowing confidential information to be released.
Sorry, I'll get down off my soapbox now.